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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-21216</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Hey Lance. Don&#039;t you know the Governor? I know you have other causes that you are  passionate about but you did take on Wilbonn from ESPN. One phone call and I am guessing he starts to see it differently.

So its OK to have a momentary lapse in attention and kill someone in Texas? Hard to believe. Even an accident the guy crossed over the white line on the side of the road and killed two people. Are we not responsible for even accidental actions. Or can we say, oops, sorry, and we are off the hook?

Please Mr. Texas Governor wake up and ride a bike. Ohh, by the way, look what all that oil is doing to your coastline. Is that sustainalble?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Hey Lance. Don&#8217;t you know the Governor? I know you have other causes that you are  passionate about but you did take on Wilbonn from ESPN. One phone call and I am guessing he starts to see it differently.</p>
<p>So its OK to have a momentary lapse in attention and kill someone in Texas? Hard to believe. Even an accident the guy crossed over the white line on the side of the road and killed two people. Are we not responsible for even accidental actions. Or can we say, oops, sorry, and we are off the hook?</p>
<p>Please Mr. Texas Governor wake up and ride a bike. Ohh, by the way, look what all that oil is doing to your coastline. Is that sustainalble?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11887</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is every politician from Texas a flaming a$$hole or do they simply think drunk driving or murderous intent is a normal state of being? Why would anyone in their right mind VETO a bill to allow a safe passing lane for cyclists. Maybe it will taking running over one of their own on a bike before THEY get it. &gt;:-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is every politician from Texas a flaming a$$hole or do they simply think drunk driving or murderous intent is a normal state of being? Why would anyone in their right mind VETO a bill to allow a safe passing lane for cyclists. Maybe it will taking running over one of their own on a bike before THEY get it. &gt;:-(</p>
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		<title>By: Merrydeath</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11767</link>
		<dc:creator>Merrydeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all anti-bike people,  I challenge you to a competition: My butt vs. your butt in spandex, my heart vs. your heart on a treadmill, my LDLs vs. your LDSs.  I think you&#039;ll all turn out to be losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all anti-bike people,  I challenge you to a competition: My butt vs. your butt in spandex, my heart vs. your heart on a treadmill, my LDLs vs. your LDSs.  I think you&#8217;ll all turn out to be losers.</p>
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		<title>By: Postcards</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11693</link>
		<dc:creator>Postcards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the first poster - everyone should send a postcard with this photo to the governor&#039;s office. Go to this web site to upload the photo, and send it for FREE: 

http://hippopost.com/

Address: 
Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428, Austin, Texas 78711

OR give them a call:

Citizen&#039;s Opinion Hotline [for Texas callers] :
(800) 252-9600

Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] :
(512) 463-1782</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the first poster &#8211; everyone should send a postcard with this photo to the governor&#8217;s office. Go to this web site to upload the photo, and send it for FREE: </p>
<p><a href="http://hippopost.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hippopost.com/</a></p>
<p>Address:<br />
Office of the Governor<br />
P.O. Box 12428, Austin, Texas 78711</p>
<p>OR give them a call:</p>
<p>Citizen&#8217;s Opinion Hotline [for Texas callers] :<br />
(800) 252-9600</p>
<p>Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] :<br />
(512) 463-1782</p>
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		<title>By: rex</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11536</link>
		<dc:creator>rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what we get when we as a hole nation do&#039;nt speek-up! i ride about 60 miles a day and have to see what it is realy about . vote for cyclist rights
!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what we get when we as a hole nation do&#8217;nt speek-up! i ride about 60 miles a day and have to see what it is realy about . vote for cyclist rights<br />
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11535</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@proud.  not all cyclists are hippies and peace lovers. but lets work this out peacefully, so cyclists don&#039;t have to start carrying firearms to defend themselves. It would be completely legal if done right btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@proud.  not all cyclists are hippies and peace lovers. but lets work this out peacefully, so cyclists don&#8217;t have to start carrying firearms to defend themselves. It would be completely legal if done right btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11530</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s curious that heavy fines are levied for speeding in construction zones and you can bet that anyone &#039;losing control&#039; and striking a construction worker would face serious charges (even though the construction might create road hazards).  And yet cyclists are second class citizens to the point where no charges are filed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s curious that heavy fines are levied for speeding in construction zones and you can bet that anyone &#8216;losing control&#8217; and striking a construction worker would face serious charges (even though the construction might create road hazards).  And yet cyclists are second class citizens to the point where no charges are filed?</p>
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		<title>By: Elvis</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11522</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am aghast at &quot;proud to be an American&quot;&#039;s statement.

Myself, I am proud to be an American cyclist.  

I am aware that more people here bicycle than drive, and am not bothered by that -- provided they can refrain from killing people.  I have no desire to force people who are safe and competant drivers from their cars, simply to enforce existing laws that require they not use those cars carelessly.

And the carelessness that this fellow ignores is not just a risk for cyclists. For your information, &quot;Proud&quot;, American drivers kill 40,000-60,000 of *each other* a year, too, not just cyclists. Think about that:  you could be the next one to get fitted with a toe tag, even if you haven&#039;t used a bicycle since 5th grade.  Drivers have as much stake in enforcing safe use of the roads as those who ride bicycles or motorcycles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aghast at &#8220;proud to be an American&#8221;&#8216;s statement.</p>
<p>Myself, I am proud to be an American cyclist.  </p>
<p>I am aware that more people here bicycle than drive, and am not bothered by that &#8212; provided they can refrain from killing people.  I have no desire to force people who are safe and competant drivers from their cars, simply to enforce existing laws that require they not use those cars carelessly.</p>
<p>And the carelessness that this fellow ignores is not just a risk for cyclists. For your information, &#8220;Proud&#8221;, American drivers kill 40,000-60,000 of *each other* a year, too, not just cyclists. Think about that:  you could be the next one to get fitted with a toe tag, even if you haven&#8217;t used a bicycle since 5th grade.  Drivers have as much stake in enforcing safe use of the roads as those who ride bicycles or motorcycles.</p>
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		<title>By: Elvis</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/tragedy-in-texas/comment-page-2/#comment-11521</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to the person who wrote:&quot;.bikes do not belong in the road,  ... you cant have a person or persons who weigh 200lbs at most on a bike with two ton and heavier vehicles going 40+ by them.&quot;

Actually you can, if people are careful and know what they are doing. If knowing what you are doing is too much trouble for you you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to drive.

 Most experienced cyclists can hold a straight line while being passed by cars.  A lot of drivers do not appear to know how to safely interact with cyclists.  If they do not they should go back to drivers ed, passing another road user should not be difficult. 

As an avid cyclist I have experience riding everything from main roads, to winding downhills, to busy downtowns.  I have never caused an accident. I have however been caused to crash by cars as well as been attacked by malicious drivers. I&#039;ve lost count of close calls. You put in a few thousand miles a year they just happen. That itself is an indictment of the tremendous carelessness and ignorance of many drivers.  This past Sunday I was going over 40 mph down a winding hill and a guy in an SUV  felt compelled to pass me with less than six inches to spare, around a curve.  Why?  He just didn&#039;t want to wait behind a bike. I could have beeen doing 80 he would still have tried to pass. These people DO need to be hauled off to jail. Yes civil law suits have a purpose too but I disagree that no useful purpose is served by jail time. Jail time would make it clear that recklessly killing or endangering people is not to be tolerated.  

If you wouldn&#039;t tolerate a person firing a shotgun into a croweded evelator with his eyes closed you shouldn&#039;t tolerate people driving as some of these people driving. While accidents do happen, we are talking here about a motor vehicle that veered out of lane and caused a crash. The legal charge for this is called manslaughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the person who wrote:&#8221;.bikes do not belong in the road,  &#8230; you cant have a person or persons who weigh 200lbs at most on a bike with two ton and heavier vehicles going 40+ by them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually you can, if people are careful and know what they are doing. If knowing what you are doing is too much trouble for you you shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to drive.</p>
<p> Most experienced cyclists can hold a straight line while being passed by cars.  A lot of drivers do not appear to know how to safely interact with cyclists.  If they do not they should go back to drivers ed, passing another road user should not be difficult. </p>
<p>As an avid cyclist I have experience riding everything from main roads, to winding downhills, to busy downtowns.  I have never caused an accident. I have however been caused to crash by cars as well as been attacked by malicious drivers. I&#8217;ve lost count of close calls. You put in a few thousand miles a year they just happen. That itself is an indictment of the tremendous carelessness and ignorance of many drivers.  This past Sunday I was going over 40 mph down a winding hill and a guy in an SUV  felt compelled to pass me with less than six inches to spare, around a curve.  Why?  He just didn&#8217;t want to wait behind a bike. I could have beeen doing 80 he would still have tried to pass. These people DO need to be hauled off to jail. Yes civil law suits have a purpose too but I disagree that no useful purpose is served by jail time. Jail time would make it clear that recklessly killing or endangering people is not to be tolerated.  </p>
<p>If you wouldn&#8217;t tolerate a person firing a shotgun into a croweded evelator with his eyes closed you shouldn&#8217;t tolerate people driving as some of these people driving. While accidents do happen, we are talking here about a motor vehicle that veered out of lane and caused a crash. The legal charge for this is called manslaughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Raiyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raiyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D @ Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  @ Ken</p>
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