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		<title>By: Project Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cycling Culture and road safety in the News</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-28190</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cycling Culture and road safety in the News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Project Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Looking at Road Safety</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-28187</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Looking at Road Safety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Project Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dealing with the Design Problem</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-28181</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dealing with the Design Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 08:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8216;Share the Road&#8217; campaigns still leave a lot of information out of the public domain about how to share that road. Read the article “Share the Road” – Is this a positive message for cycling? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-13038</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Previous post was an error. A friend of mine just started this website you might be interested in: www.sharethedamnroad.com .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Previous post was an error. A friend of mine just started this website you might be interested in: <a href="http://www.sharethedamnroad.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sharethedamnroad.com</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: 40x14</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-1897</link>
		<dc:creator>40x14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am uninspired by the image that Todd Scott posted (http://www.m-bike.org/gallery/m-bike/index.php?g2_itemId=1327). 

A more bike-centric sign would simply depict cars being prohibited from the bike lane, more like this: http://www.online-sign.com/signs/prohibition/thumbs/174.jpg

Another way to foster driver&#039;s understanding the needs of bicycles and cars sharing the roadway might be a sign demonstrating the three foot margin that is required by law in order to pass a cyclist safely, and a bicycle occupying a full vehicular lane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am uninspired by the image that Todd Scott posted (<a href="http://www.m-bike.org/gallery/m-bike/index.php?g2_itemId=1327" rel="nofollow">http://www.m-bike.org/gallery/m-bike/index.php?g2_itemId=1327</a>). </p>
<p>A more bike-centric sign would simply depict cars being prohibited from the bike lane, more like this: <a href="http://www.online-sign.com/signs/prohibition/thumbs/174.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.online-sign.com/signs/prohibition/thumbs/174.jpg</a></p>
<p>Another way to foster driver&#8217;s understanding the needs of bicycles and cars sharing the roadway might be a sign demonstrating the three foot margin that is required by law in order to pass a cyclist safely, and a bicycle occupying a full vehicular lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Bike Man Dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sensible and accurate critique of &#8220;Share the Road&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-1896</link>
		<dc:creator>Bike Man Dan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sensible and accurate critique of &#8220;Share the Road&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and accurate critique of &#8220;Share the Road&#8221; http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/  &#8220;The sign’s literal meaning is: Caution! You might encounter a person riding a bicycle on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and accurate critique of &#8220;Share the Road&#8221; <a href="http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/" rel="nofollow">http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/</a>  &#8220;The sign’s literal meaning is: Caution! You might encounter a person riding a bicycle on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-1890</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The signage here in Winnipeg, Canada reads:

Cyclists Reminder:  Vehicle Traffic has the Right to Use the Road.

At first I hated them, then I realized that the sign puts bikes first.  It would be typical to remind motorists that they are required to share the road, but here, cyclists are the presumed primary road users!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The signage here in Winnipeg, Canada reads:</p>
<p>Cyclists Reminder:  Vehicle Traffic has the Right to Use the Road.</p>
<p>At first I hated them, then I realized that the sign puts bikes first.  It would be typical to remind motorists that they are required to share the road, but here, cyclists are the presumed primary road users!</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some other warning signs that make me hate what they are warning against: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/vgrigoriou/?action=view&amp;current=DuckSign.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/vgrigoriou/?action=view&amp;current=children.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
and the worst one yet: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/vgrigoriou/?action=view&amp;current=baby_on_board.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Those warning signs are really just a menace. Getting people all worked up and angry over sharing the road with bicycles, children, babies and ducks just to name a few. 

Cars are not going to go anywhere. The reality is, no matter how bicycle friendly our world becomes, fact of the matter is, there will always be people who physically CAN NOT ride a bicyle, or people that just plain need to get somewhere faster. 

So even if all us able bodied folks start riding bikes 99% of the time, there will STILL be motorized vehicles on the road. Maybe we should all learn to live together in some sort of harmony. Maybe by...sharing the road?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other warning signs that make me hate what they are warning against:<br />
<a href="http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/vgrigoriou/?action=view&amp;current=DuckSign.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><br />
<a href="http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/vgrigoriou/?action=view&amp;current=children.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><br />
and the worst one yet:<br />
<a href="http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/vgrigoriou/?action=view&amp;current=baby_on_board.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
<p>Those warning signs are really just a menace. Getting people all worked up and angry over sharing the road with bicycles, children, babies and ducks just to name a few. </p>
<p>Cars are not going to go anywhere. The reality is, no matter how bicycle friendly our world becomes, fact of the matter is, there will always be people who physically CAN NOT ride a bicyle, or people that just plain need to get somewhere faster. </p>
<p>So even if all us able bodied folks start riding bikes 99% of the time, there will STILL be motorized vehicles on the road. Maybe we should all learn to live together in some sort of harmony. Maybe by&#8230;sharing the road?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Tullberg</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/share-the-road-is-this-a-positive-message-for-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-1884</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Tullberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Waylan that there is nothing wrong with the &quot;share the Road&quot; message; it needs to be explained better.  Many drivers do not look upon passing a bicycle as they would passing any other vehicle - if you cannot do it safely, wait until you can.   The slow speed and narrow width of a bicycle makes them much easier to pass than motor vehicles.  On most roads there is insufficient room to pass a cyclist safely without going too close to the next lane, particularly if the vehicle is 8.5 ft. wide with mirrors extending beyond that.  

I agree with Reverend Dick that the appeal of cars is not the advertising but the convenience.  The best message for cycling or walking would be to chose the most appropriate vehicle for the trip.  For short trips for one person to recreation, school, the store, or maybe work a bicycle is best.  For long trips with multiple people and carrying large amounts a car or truck is more suitable.  

Any advertising mesaage will go not only to the target audience but to others.  Would &quot;Put a bicycle between you legs&quot; be an approriate message to the parents of a 13 yr. old girl buying her a bicycle?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Waylan that there is nothing wrong with the &#8220;share the Road&#8221; message; it needs to be explained better.  Many drivers do not look upon passing a bicycle as they would passing any other vehicle &#8211; if you cannot do it safely, wait until you can.   The slow speed and narrow width of a bicycle makes them much easier to pass than motor vehicles.  On most roads there is insufficient room to pass a cyclist safely without going too close to the next lane, particularly if the vehicle is 8.5 ft. wide with mirrors extending beyond that.  </p>
<p>I agree with Reverend Dick that the appeal of cars is not the advertising but the convenience.  The best message for cycling or walking would be to chose the most appropriate vehicle for the trip.  For short trips for one person to recreation, school, the store, or maybe work a bicycle is best.  For long trips with multiple people and carrying large amounts a car or truck is more suitable.  </p>
<p>Any advertising mesaage will go not only to the target audience but to others.  Would &#8220;Put a bicycle between you legs&#8221; be an approriate message to the parents of a 13 yr. old girl buying her a bicycle?</p>
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		<title>By: jmpier</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmpier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reverend said;

Cars aren’t dominant because advertising made them sexy- they’re popular because they are EASY and convenient. Bikes are hard to use- they require effort and willingness to be discomfitted (inclement weather, hills, etc). No ad campaign bullshit is going to change those facts or trick simpletons into believing anything else. “Put the fun between your legs” just sounds weak. Bikes are fun, they aren’t sexy…let’s not water down the appeal and make them look foolish in a misguided attempt to follow the direction of “marketing” a la an underwear catalog.

Simpletons are the people who believe the commercials that the new caddi will make you sexy and desireable. Advertising is all about convincing people that the product you manufacture is what the consumer needs.

Cars are easy!?!? How many hours a week do you work to make that payment each month? and if you don&#039;t own a new car, you can&#039;t tell me it is easy to crawl under it every once in a while to change brakes or oil or what ever else brakes.

In conclusion, I don&#039;t know what your bike looks like but my bike are damn sexy!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reverend said;</p>
<p>Cars aren’t dominant because advertising made them sexy- they’re popular because they are EASY and convenient. Bikes are hard to use- they require effort and willingness to be discomfitted (inclement weather, hills, etc). No ad campaign bullshit is going to change those facts or trick simpletons into believing anything else. “Put the fun between your legs” just sounds weak. Bikes are fun, they aren’t sexy…let’s not water down the appeal and make them look foolish in a misguided attempt to follow the direction of “marketing” a la an underwear catalog.</p>
<p>Simpletons are the people who believe the commercials that the new caddi will make you sexy and desireable. Advertising is all about convincing people that the product you manufacture is what the consumer needs.</p>
<p>Cars are easy!?!? How many hours a week do you work to make that payment each month? and if you don&#8217;t own a new car, you can&#8217;t tell me it is easy to crawl under it every once in a while to change brakes or oil or what ever else brakes.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I don&#8217;t know what your bike looks like but my bike are damn sexy!!</p>
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