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	<title>Comments on: Knog Solid State U-Lock</title>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-53347</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing this halfway through 2011 and the Knog website is just now promising that the Strongman will be available online in November 2011. 

My first guess is that they did some actual testing and didn&#039;t get very good results... although that didn&#039;t stop them from releasing their other model colo[u]rful plastic-covered cable locks with the supposed tough core.  I just finished watching a YouTube video where the guy took a standard 3/8-inch braided steel cable and - using a brand new pair of chinese-made cutters - proceeded to cut through the steel cable in ten seconds.  Then, with that benchmark established, he used the same cutters (now presumably dulled a little by the cable) to cut through the blue Knog lock in SIX seconds.  Three or four seconds for the outer silicone cover and the woven steel, and a couple more seconds to worry the tough inner cord and there it was, no longer a lock, just an expensive piece of plastic with a bit of metal inside. 

I could see those locks being of some value if it took a standard, cheap bolt-cutter of the length that thieves conceal down one pant-leg, maybe a full minute to work through. SIX seconds, though, is not any kind of deterrent.  

Could the cool-looking Knog Strongman with its fancy unlocking mechanism (with the risk that other people have highlighted) be $150-worth of better?  I&#039;ll wait for some reviewers who give it a real-life workout and hit it with some standard bike-thief tactics.

Meanwhile, my yellow-and-black Kryptonite New York lock weighs four pounds, is ugly with my red bike, and its cheap-shit plastic mounting bracket broke in the first week (so now I bungee the lock to the pannier-rack), but the lock is rugged and hard to defeat.  Oh well. Coolness will have to wait.

Ride on, y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing this halfway through 2011 and the Knog website is just now promising that the Strongman will be available online in November 2011. </p>
<p>My first guess is that they did some actual testing and didn&#8217;t get very good results&#8230; although that didn&#8217;t stop them from releasing their other model colo[u]rful plastic-covered cable locks with the supposed tough core.  I just finished watching a YouTube video where the guy took a standard 3/8-inch braided steel cable and &#8211; using a brand new pair of chinese-made cutters &#8211; proceeded to cut through the steel cable in ten seconds.  Then, with that benchmark established, he used the same cutters (now presumably dulled a little by the cable) to cut through the blue Knog lock in SIX seconds.  Three or four seconds for the outer silicone cover and the woven steel, and a couple more seconds to worry the tough inner cord and there it was, no longer a lock, just an expensive piece of plastic with a bit of metal inside. </p>
<p>I could see those locks being of some value if it took a standard, cheap bolt-cutter of the length that thieves conceal down one pant-leg, maybe a full minute to work through. SIX seconds, though, is not any kind of deterrent.  </p>
<p>Could the cool-looking Knog Strongman with its fancy unlocking mechanism (with the risk that other people have highlighted) be $150-worth of better?  I&#8217;ll wait for some reviewers who give it a real-life workout and hit it with some standard bike-thief tactics.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, my yellow-and-black Kryptonite New York lock weighs four pounds, is ugly with my red bike, and its cheap-shit plastic mounting bracket broke in the first week (so now I bungee the lock to the pannier-rack), but the lock is rugged and hard to defeat.  Oh well. Coolness will have to wait.</p>
<p>Ride on, y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: Knog Folding Tools at Urban Velo</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-14704</link>
		<dc:creator>Knog Folding Tools at Urban Velo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] look like anything else. Back at Interbike we saw a glimpse of their &#8220;keyless&#8221; solid state lock and the two pictured folding tools. Knog sent a pair of the tools in for closer inspection, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] look like anything else. Back at Interbike we saw a glimpse of their &#8220;keyless&#8221; solid state lock and the two pictured folding tools. Knog sent a pair of the tools in for closer inspection, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Knog Solid State Ulock &#124; Lee Semple.Com</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-12105</link>
		<dc:creator>Knog Solid State Ulock &#124; Lee Semple.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] preview here from Urbanvelo about Knogs prototype solid state [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Knog Demonstrates Keyless Electronic Bike Lock &#124; Todaytech.info</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10947</link>
		<dc:creator>Knog Demonstrates Keyless Electronic Bike Lock &#124; Todaytech.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Knog Solid State U-Lock [Urban Velo] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Knog Demonstrates Keyless Electronic Bike Lock &#171; Coolbeans</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10857</link>
		<dc:creator>Knog Demonstrates Keyless Electronic Bike Lock &#171; Coolbeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Cool Tech Stuff Blog &#187; &#187; Knog Demonstrates Keyless Electronic Bike Lock</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10856</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cool Tech Stuff Blog &#187; &#187; Knog Demonstrates Keyless Electronic Bike Lock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10840</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carter: Just like bike thieves, use a battery powered grinder? I mean, it&#039;s not like anyone is going to stop you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carter: Just like bike thieves, use a battery powered grinder? I mean, it&#8217;s not like anyone is going to stop you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10808</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a beautiful design! The orange rubber (I&#039;m guessing) trim looks great and looks functional! I agree with Carter. Any cutting edge technology needs a real proving ground not to mention time to come down in price before I seriously consider it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful design! The orange rubber (I&#8217;m guessing) trim looks great and looks functional! I agree with Carter. Any cutting edge technology needs a real proving ground not to mention time to come down in price before I seriously consider it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carter</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10805</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Id like to see this lock take some serious real world abuse before I get confidence in it.  Is there any fail safe manual override?  Im just wondering what happens if it does break internally after locking leaving your bike locked to the rack and unable to open again.  Keyed locks are simple and people know how to get through them but they cant not work if used correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Id like to see this lock take some serious real world abuse before I get confidence in it.  Is there any fail safe manual override?  Im just wondering what happens if it does break internally after locking leaving your bike locked to the rack and unable to open again.  Keyed locks are simple and people know how to get through them but they cant not work if used correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/knog-solid-state-u-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-10800</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is the stuff i like to see - real and useful innovation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the stuff i like to see &#8211; real and useful innovation</p>
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