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	<title>Comments on: Honor the Stop</title>
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	<description>Bicycles in the urban environment. A magazine about urban cycling.</description>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3734</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoretically, I ought to obey traffic laws.  Theoretically, I shouldn&#039;t get run down if I am obeying traffic laws.  The theory doesn&#039;t always work, so practically, since I don&#039;t want to get run down, I don&#039;t always obey traffic laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, I ought to obey traffic laws.  Theoretically, I shouldn&#8217;t get run down if I am obeying traffic laws.  The theory doesn&#8217;t always work, so practically, since I don&#8217;t want to get run down, I don&#8217;t always obey traffic laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Ikon O. Klasst</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3730</link>
		<dc:creator>Ikon O. Klasst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slo-n-go is one of the key advantages a cyclist has over a motorist.  Indeed, it&#039;s one of the reasons I choose to bike most places...freedom.

Make cyclists conform to laws designed for motorists and you&#039;ll be guaranteed one thing:  less cyclists.

I&#039;m all for stricter enforcement of motor traffic laws...for motorists. Best bang for the buck in terms of saving lives and creating safe transportation environments.  Let&#039;s focus there first, and once we make the necessary gains we can talk about the behavior of cyclists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slo-n-go is one of the key advantages a cyclist has over a motorist.  Indeed, it&#8217;s one of the reasons I choose to bike most places&#8230;freedom.</p>
<p>Make cyclists conform to laws designed for motorists and you&#8217;ll be guaranteed one thing:  less cyclists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for stricter enforcement of motor traffic laws&#8230;for motorists. Best bang for the buck in terms of saving lives and creating safe transportation environments.  Let&#8217;s focus there first, and once we make the necessary gains we can talk about the behavior of cyclists.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3727</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a downtown area. If I used the whole lane at a stop sign I would be shot, yes shot off my bike. Most in the greater Washington DC area don&#039;t have respect for cyclists.

And whenever I do come to a stop most drivers at the other stop sign wave me through...thinking I have the right of way.

Why don&#039;t you fix the laws that need fixing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a downtown area. If I used the whole lane at a stop sign I would be shot, yes shot off my bike. Most in the greater Washington DC area don&#8217;t have respect for cyclists.</p>
<p>And whenever I do come to a stop most drivers at the other stop sign wave me through&#8230;thinking I have the right of way.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you fix the laws that need fixing?</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3724</link>
		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed, its sad those people were killed but i dont understand how i am going to be safer if i come to a complete stop at each stop sign.

coming to a complete stop goes against what most people do when riding - slow down at intersections, use your faculties to determine if it safe - and then go - whether you have stopped or not.  

also, i thought i read something (maybe here) about how some cities have basically de-criminalized running stop signs???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed, its sad those people were killed but i dont understand how i am going to be safer if i come to a complete stop at each stop sign.</p>
<p>coming to a complete stop goes against what most people do when riding &#8211; slow down at intersections, use your faculties to determine if it safe &#8211; and then go &#8211; whether you have stopped or not.  </p>
<p>also, i thought i read something (maybe here) about how some cities have basically de-criminalized running stop signs???</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3719</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>avery, could you direct me to your statistics, please?

as well, considering my morning ride to work starts at 5:30am, the intersection i use leaving my neighborhood uses a weighted triggering system for the lights. are you saying i should just wait until a car finally pulls up and gets it to turn green before i cross the five lanes to carry on to work?

these laws (and roads mostly) were made without bikes or other non-auto transportation in mind. on top of that, who made these laws and where did the assumption come from that i agreed to obey any of them in the first place? las i checked, i hadn&#039;t approved anybody to tell me how to live my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avery, could you direct me to your statistics, please?</p>
<p>as well, considering my morning ride to work starts at 5:30am, the intersection i use leaving my neighborhood uses a weighted triggering system for the lights. are you saying i should just wait until a car finally pulls up and gets it to turn green before i cross the five lanes to carry on to work?</p>
<p>these laws (and roads mostly) were made without bikes or other non-auto transportation in mind. on top of that, who made these laws and where did the assumption come from that i agreed to obey any of them in the first place? las i checked, i hadn&#8217;t approved anybody to tell me how to live my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Avery</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator>Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting rear-ended is statistically rare, especially while waiting at an intersection. Particularly if you have stopped in the middle of the lane, as safety experts recommend.

You are much, much more likely to get hit by blowing through the stop. 

I see the arguments posed by Joe and Jimmy far too often. They are weak attempts at justifying sloppy riding habits.

www.averyjenkins.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting rear-ended is statistically rare, especially while waiting at an intersection. Particularly if you have stopped in the middle of the lane, as safety experts recommend.</p>
<p>You are much, much more likely to get hit by blowing through the stop. </p>
<p>I see the arguments posed by Joe and Jimmy far too often. They are weak attempts at justifying sloppy riding habits.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.averyjenkins.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.averyjenkins.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup, agree with joe. i&#039;m not going to be waiting around to get ass ended by some inattentive driver. i&#039;ll honor those who have passed by keeping myself alive to ride another day thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup, agree with joe. i&#8217;m not going to be waiting around to get ass ended by some inattentive driver. i&#8217;ll honor those who have passed by keeping myself alive to ride another day thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Fixedgear</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Fixedgear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw the Law.. Safety First!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw the Law.. Safety First!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://urbanvelo.org/honor-the-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-3695</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link on the picture has typo in the code. Needs to have the s dropped before the. Thanks for the info on the organization though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link on the picture has typo in the code. Needs to have the s dropped before the. Thanks for the info on the organization though.</p>
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